@zzt I am waiting to see if people start posting about BSD being corrupted by fascism or AI--what's the difference?--before I contemplate doing anything. I'm talking about a year at least.

I’m serious about this too, by the way

Linux as a project and as an ecosystem asked for our labor under false pretenses

why hasn’t its organizing foundation been flooded with itemized invoices for that labor?

and if you do this, include the hours you burned doing advocacy, too. that shit ain’t free.

“huh huh huh if you’re so unhappy with how linus is leading the kernel, you can always ask for a refund”

bet. where do we send the invoices for all the labor we donated to the Linux ecosystem under a promise that’s now repeatedly been broken? the Foundation can cover it at standard consultants’ rates for commercial work. I haven’t done the accounting, but I imagine they should be able to cover at least a few million dollars worth before they have to start dipping into torvalds’ paycheck

@dysfun @zzt relatedly, the lack of abstraction/separation in modern linux that running `mount` becomes a hunt&peck link for finding the one you want between cgroups and other things...

I understand why some things like cgroups etc are available, and I even agree with some of the uses! but goddamn it's a complete tooling and design failure in so many places

I'm feeling hopeful that even with the incoming squeeze years we might get back to an early-2010s vitality and richness in foss world

now browsing on the libreoffice kernel for all my computor needs

If I were my brain, I would simply chill out for once

@zzt you know what convinced me this wasn't as bad an idea as i feared?

after install, with a basic x setup it automatically set up for me, i asked ps to show me the processes in a terminal and there were so few it didn't overflow the page.

your server will probably do quite well on netbsd! hopefully moving to another system as a single point of failure won’t bite us in case the netbsd maintainers have a price too

that isn’t at all sarcasm by the way, I am literally hoping they can’t be bought

because structurally, moving to netbsd doesn’t fix what broke Linux, and FreeBSD, and OpenBSD, and countless other projects

I really like the BSD userland compared with the tower of awful hacks (with a weird fandom) that the Linux one is

I don’t relish the lack of hardware support and associated extreme frustration

and packing up your shit and moving really feels more polite and more fragile than the dickheads slopping up the kernel deserve, though I understand the need for important systems

on the one hand, a much younger me really loved hacking on a BSD and learning internals up close

on the other hand, a current day me really liked building on top of a unix-like kernel that worked on a broad modern hardware base and could run every application I wanted it to, until the slop got to it

@nina_kali_nina there are absolutely valid reasons for it, but also it's a true fact that is highly relevant to the present week and a broad showstopper

@Rycochet @zzt These guys have the FOSS version of Nobel Disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

@zzt You have articulated my own feelings very well. Thank you.

also tagging @zzt because this isn't part of that thread

Holy hell it's been a long time since Education Yourself! This installment is "Lucky Linus and the Development Hell" where some kid's hobby project ends up powering The Thing The Entire Digital World Has Been Built Upon For Literal Decades
https://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=478783#478783

@zzt dunno if you didn't see it but https://woof.tech/@techokami/117453095072801952 it is done

@cesarb @zzt Consider this: it's also boiling the ocean, stealing everyone's work, ruining the economy, emboldening the nazis, losing asstons of money, and it DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING WORK. Hope this helps.

@aburka @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt it runs Minix 3
Every computer with an Intel CPU is running Minix
Andrew has won the war