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  • emenelemenel
    Dec 4, 2025, 4:50 PM

    @inthehands Norbert Wiener wrote in 1948, in the book that defined Cybernetics:

    "Let us remember that the automatic machine is the precise economic equivalent of slave labor. Any labor which competes with slave labor must accept the economic consequences of slave labor.”

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  • Dec 4, 2025, 9:55 PM

    @emenel @jimbob @inthehands So labour-saving devices like dishwashers and washing machines are morally reprehensible, and the only ethical alternative is to do the work manually or pay someone a fair price for their time and labour? That’s quite a take…

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  • emenelemenel
    Dec 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

    @inthehands @acb also dishwashers etc don't occupy the same economic (and ethical) place in our society as industrial automation et al...

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