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  • horiaghostsnwitches@post.lurk.org
    Oct 24, 2026, 7:26 AM

    RE: mastodon.social/@JulianOliver/

    I'm currently trying to find or setup some kind of Initiative for collective degrowth and disinvestment from big tech here in Finland, particularly in the Uusimaa region where I'm at.

    I've already been in contact with @abolish-ai who are doing some work in the nordics, and was recently in touch with someone in Finland that had a few pointers for me. So if you're new in Finland like me and feeling clueless I do have a little info I can share as well :)

    Grateful for any insights, kiitos!

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  • horiaghostsnwitches@post.lurk.org
    Oct 24, 2026, 8:35 AM

    @yhancik @viznut ah oui je vois très bien, bonne idée ! le nom hante un peu mes cours de progra comme un fantôme :))

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  • Else, Someonenobody@mastodon.acm.org
    Oct 24, 2026, 1:25 PM

    @ghostsnwitches

    > ...master degree in Visual Communication Design at Aalto University

    Ah how marvelous! Brace yourself for going through Microsoft oAuth and Outlook on a daily basis, including for accessing CSC or helsinki university library, or literally any service that wants to you know your student status

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  • Else, Someonenobody@mastodon.acm.org
    Oct 24, 2026, 1:27 PM

    @ghostsnwitches
    Yes your firstlastname and DoB are automatically submitted to Microsoft for Outlook & oAuth, _and_ to Google for Google Drive. I'm not 100% sure about the data Zoom gets, but yes you will use Zoom. And a bunch of courses switched from Zulip to Teams

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  • Julian OliverJulianOliver@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 7:12 PM

    @nobody @ghostsnwitches Quite the same where I'm teaching remote for Masters of Information Design students, in Eindhoven, NL.

    So I switched students Zoom -> BigBlueButton, Teams -> Mattermost, GG Drive -> Nexctloud, all self-hosted and data sovereign, latter two on a recycled server at Hetzner in Helsinki.

    Worked out great. It can be done!

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  • horiaghostsnwitches@post.lurk.org
    Oct 25, 2026, 6:03 PM

    @JulianOliver @nobody I started in September so I've already witnessed it!

    However the worst for me has been the aggressive digitalisation. Everything needs an app and everything needs a smartphone (which I don't have anymore!)...and not just in Aalto but the rest of Espoo and Helsinki too.

    It would be incredible to get away from the Google and Microsoft infrastructure at Aalto, although it's massive on a scale I'm not used to at all. In Belgium art schools are separate entities from universities so everything felt much smaller and more convivial in a way.

    As for the initiative (Ry or not): definitely the latter, I'm more familiar with informal organising :)

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  • Julian OliverJulianOliver@mastodon.social
    Oct 26, 2026, 4:04 AM

    @nobody @ghostsnwitches Sad to see some countries become vassal states of the US, infrastructurally speaking. My own country is in that list. A Google account for almost every child, from the moment they start school.

    The US would never accept the same, for its citizens, nor public sector.

    We have to turn the tide. It starts with organising a front of resistance (as you are Horia) and, where needed, building up alternatives ourselves.

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