Oct 18, 2026, 6:56 PM

@riotmuffin Note that a special consideration applies for tribal members here: doing ANYTHING that claims US "citizenship" can be seen by the US itself as renouncing tribal sovereignty and membership. Note that millions have refused US government checks trying to turn the theft of tribal lands into purchases for the exact same reason.

That is explicitly mentioned in this article, for those who don't take the time to read it. I suspect the decision on how to deal with this (and the potential fallout) is best made within each tribe under their own traditional processes. There is a case for sabotage votes to weaken a declared enemy, and a case for refusing to vote for fear of being seen as recognizing the enemy's conquest as establishing a legitimate government.

A comparison for European descended folks might be this: suppose Nazi Germany had run elections beween say, the main Nazis and the Strasserists? Suppose the residents of Occupied France had been allowed to vote in those elections? Trying to gridlock the occupation government with half and half votes for each, or to put the weakest candidates in office would both be valid strategies. No issue with German citizens doing this at all.

The problem would be for French citizens: would the Nazi regime treat all French votes no matter for whom as votes to continue the occupation? Would high French turnout be considered an acceptance of occupation and renunciation of French independence by these voters?

Well, the only votes against Naziism in the 1940s that worked were cast by partisans and guerillas, the Red Army, the U-boat hunting naval forces, the RAF and the 8th Air Force, and finally by the D-Day counter-invasion to remove the Nazis once and for all. It wasn't cheap then and it won't be cheap now.

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