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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:12 AM

    This whole Russian Bots narrative is really tiring. It has been ten fucking years of this shit. It is a pervasive story because it is an incredibly useful propaganda tactic in deflecting blame from anybody in power who can actually be held accountable.

    As Liberalism deteriorates under the weight of its contradictions (namely, trying to reconcile Capitalism with Democracy), all of our sins can be conveniently shunted to an external enemy. We can keep telling ourselves the lie that our system is fundamentally just, only we keep getting bamboozled by a foreign enemy.

    Rather than confront the antisocial unity of the Republicans, Democrats, corporate media, finance capitalism, and rent-seeking monopolies, we are conditioned instead to circle our wagons around them. We are supposed to believe that this unholy alliance is actually democracy manifest, and that it is actually very fragile. That it is dangling by a thread, and how sorely we'll miss it when it's gone.

    This facile mode of media analysis completely lacks any power analysis. We are to believe that the world's most valuable social media properties are powerless in the face of common cyber-criminals. As a countermeasure, we not only accept, but welcome increased surveillance and censorship, to the most privacy invading companies in the world, to make sure the people spreading the wrong politics can be swiftly eliminated from the body politic.

    This is awfully convenient for the powers-that-be. Also, pay no mind to the fact that these platforms are an overflowing dumpster of reactionary sludge, despite all of this increased surveillance. It has literally never been worse.

    This isn't the work of a foreign bot farm. This is the deliberate design of capitalist social media platforms. Bots - to the extent they factor into the equation - are only a drop in the bucket. A bug's corpse on the windshield of a home-grown propaganda machine which is driving straight towards fascism.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:38 AM

    Another thing the Russian Bots narrative smuggles in is a paralyzing institutional epistemology.

    Like the poor smol bean social media behemoths, we are supposed to look at our shameless hyper-consolidated for-profit warmongering media racket as the plucky Woodwards & Bernsteins, tasked with the social responsibility of bringing the regime to justice (conveniently, all we must do is observe from the sidelines and share links to their articles on social media). It is the story of David and Goliath, where the David in question is David Ellison.

    We are told there is a "firehose of falsehood," and the only way to combat falsehood is to dutifully read the truth. Where do you read the truth? Well, the New York Times and the Washington Post, of course! The truth is tautologically uncontroversial, undisruptive. If it is printed under those august mastheads, it is true. The further away you get from their good graces, the less sure you can be. Better not risk it!

    Elite journalism is a country club, and the thankless work of the muckrakers and skeptics rarely graces their pages. Under institutional epistemology, the whole tumor of critical journalism is cleanly excised. Likewise, anybody who actually gives a damn about concepts like justice or democracy can be omitted from the discussion, due to their prejudices in favor of justice.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:55 AM

    There are plenty of lessons to learn. Propaganda tactics on social media have become a lot more advanced over the past 10 years. But this shit - this shit is baby-brained. It is like people became aware of media literacy as a concept, but only on an extremely superficial level.

    People pretend their political adversaries are fake. It is a convenient and self-reassuring story. That we can blow up a server farm somewhere on the other side of the world and all of our enemies will evaporate like the White Walkers after killing the Ice King. And then after that, everything will go back to the Obama years.

    At the very least, we should be considering things in terms of The Propaganda Model described by Herman and Chomsky. That the main source of misinformation is not some Death Star we can send Luke Skywalker to blow up for us, but is actually the deeply embedded corporate interests which make up the skeleton and musculature of our entire system of government. The ones who pick our political candidates, who write our laws, write grants for our cops and counterinsurgency training centers, build our propaganda organs, and use them promote stories to justify them.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 9:58 AM

    @porkroll yeah it is weird how everyboy now blames Russian bots for the right wing nationalism rise everywhere, as if it never existed before social media.

    They only can be successful if there are conditions that make their ideas stick. Unfortunately we do have crises stacked on other crises - a petry dish for "simple answers".

    Just getting rid of Russian interference won't change that. Although it's a good start

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:29 PM

    @porkroll
    Agreed with the caveat, that there are bot farms.

    It just makes little difference if they are operated by Russian, GOP or oligarch (whatever nationality) money. And by the internet's nature three bot farms can be located nowadays anywhere.

    And Russia is aligned strongly with antidemocratic pro oligarchy forces.

    But we manage quite well without them, OTOH a Russian sounding fellow seems to be there to help out of something good happens.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:57 PM

    @porkroll I dunno, I mean the datacenter thing is true. I agree that there are larger scale factors but I also don't think we should dismiss how much Russian (and lets be real, also American etc.) bots shape media. Like, obviously that isn't the whole picture and there are larger scale structures, but I also don't think we should ignore how much bots are shaping people's perspectives, and even if not creating nationalism outright, invigorating the existing bigotries. But that's just my two cents

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 2:58 PM

    @porkroll also completely unrelated but how do you get around the word limit? I'm capped at 500 but I see posts all the time that are way longer than that

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 7:22 PM

    @porkroll All fascists are whiners who blame foreigners or people they want to take their citizenship away for everything bad.

    Same with this Putin troll bot farms. They may be orcs from Mordor, but how many Satuman did let them in?

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