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  • Aug 8, 2026, 1:39 PM

    @soc @stuartl @thesamesam @mgorny There's no way they can do anything about it. The traffic looks just like normal customer use. No single IP hammers anyone. They all make only a small number of connections to any given site, spreading the abuse of the same site across millions of source addresses.

    If residential ISPs *tried* to stop this, it would fail, but they would fuck us over even more in the process. Doing things like resetting our connections, spying on SNI and having "AI" models process our browsing habits trying to classify them as normal or abnormal, etc. You do NOT want to be advocating for this.

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  • Aug 8, 2026, 5:32 PM
    @dalias @soc @stuartl @thesamesam @mgorny I do think there's few things ISPs could do without involving deep-packet inspection (illegal in quite few places for them to do). For example having some honeypots for both the residential side and hoster side, specially as most home ISPs also tend to have a hoster venture.

    And then actions taken can be things like having the controlling IPs go into a list of IPs that can be used in say an opt-in list used by their users' firewalls.
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