Taylor Lorenztaylorlorenz@mastodon.social
Feb 18, 2023, 6:23 PMHe’s treating user security like a marketing tactic https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-sms-2fa-twitter-blue/
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Stefanstefan@gardenstate.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:23 PM@taylorlorenz maybe he'll charge a dollar to report a tweet.
Kirtkirt@mastodon.socialMar 6, 2023, 5:30 PMi doubt he's got a second step in mind.
i get the impression he's just in a short sighted panic about the company losing money, and reacting by going around pointing at things yelling "make them pay for that!"
and a room for of very tired accountant's and engineers say "um, ok Elon, if you say so…" and then hope he forgets about it, because if they say "that's a terrible idea because…" they get fired.
e.g. what happened to the paid API access thing?
mjfuhlhagemjfuhlhage@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:25 PM@taylorlorenz What are the odds he did this because that system is breaking and he has to ration access because he fired everyone who is able to fix it?
Bud GibsonBudGibson@mstdn.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:26 PM@taylorlorenz Very well put
Elias Foxelias@foxhold.netFeb 18, 2023, 6:26 PM@taylorlorenz I'd have more respect for the move if he came right out and said “I don't want to pay for SMS 2FA.”
Feb 18, 2023, 6:25 PM@taylorlorenz menu:
tweet: 0.99
reply: 0.45
retweet: 0.25
Mattimwiththecats@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:27 PM@taylorlorenz Yup. SMS 2FA isn’t great, but pulling the rug out without paying up is pretty weak. Especially when they could have moved over to Email 2FA as a temp measure.
But I did actually log in over there today just to make sure my account was up to snuff. 🤷♂️
Bleak Futurebleakfuture@home.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:27 PM@taylorlorenz Elon Musk is saying “Nice account you have there… it’d be a shame if someone were to compromise it.”
Carlos Troncoso Phcarlostph@forall.socialFeb 19, 2023, 2:32 PM@bleakfuture @taylorlorenz
What is that suppose to mean?
Remember, this is not twitter. Threats, even in irony form are not overlooked.- Bleak Futurebleakfuture@home.socialFeb 19, 2023, 3:06 PM
@carlostph @taylorlorenz It’s a reference to extortion and protection rackets run by the mob - that’s what Elon is doing.
- Carlos Troncoso Phcarlostph@forall.socialFeb 19, 2023, 3:10 PM
@bleakfuture @taylorlorenz
I know what you "might" have wanted to say. Please rephrase it so it doesn't look like a threat. - Bleak Futurebleakfuture@home.socialFeb 19, 2023, 3:25 PM
- Carlos Troncoso Phcarlostph@forall.socialFeb 19, 2023, 6:14 PM
@bleakfuture @taylorlorenz
You can do better. Please try.
Seriously. please edit the post. Mob-like comments, even if it is irony, is not polite. Respect is something we need to not forget. - Bleak Futurebleakfuture@home.socialFeb 19, 2023, 6:34 PM
@carlostph @taylorlorenz I’m sorry, I’m trying to shake off the sneakiness I had on twitter and be a better community member. Thanks for checking me.
- Carlos Troncoso Phcarlostph@forall.socialFeb 19, 2023, 6:36 PM
@bleakfuture @taylorlorenz
No problem, we all need a little help getting out of the battle field that twitter was/is. I know I've needed someone to check me as well. Thanks for the good reception. 
Zavthull@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:28 PM@taylorlorenz But isn't the new free 2FA safer anyways than SMS verification?
Wiredfire :BA:wiredfire@mas.toFeb 18, 2023, 6:41 PM@taylorlorenz @thull very much so. And it’s not new, it’s been around for Twitter for years.
Renee DiRestaNoupside@saturation.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:29 PM@taylorlorenz its a weird thing to make SMS 2FA into some sort of perk. Better to explain why it costs the company money and authenticators/yubikeys are safer anyway.
Steve DeGroof 📚🛸degroof@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:30 PM@taylorlorenz Funny how I knew exactly who you were talking about.
Steven SavageStevenSavage@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:37 PM@taylorlorenz he's achieved anti-marketing. He makes people less interested.
BeeksBeeks@home.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:38 PM@taylorlorenz anyone know if Taylor's tweets are all about Twitter too or if it's just her toots? So many other important tech things going on and all we get here on Mastodon is updates on Elon. It sucks because she's awesome and I wish she'd use this site for more. :(
Sarah Graysgray@journa.hostFeb 18, 2023, 6:42 PM@taylorlorenz got the notification on my account last night and was like, "nope, I'm out."
Rgenrgen@mstdn.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:47 PM@taylorlorenz perhaps he will start per characters on the tweet. He is desperate
Ramontronramontron@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 6:49 PM@taylorlorenz but also, I don’t trust him (didn’t trust the previous people running twitter either) with my phone number.
Jean-Francois Mezeijfmezei@mstdn.caFeb 18, 2023, 6:49 PM@taylorlorenz SMS gateway services do cost money for both the gateway service and the cellular carrier that gets the SMS. While these fees are minimal per SMS (portion of a cent), when your ad revenues are also in portios of a cent per user, then this may have an impact. Melon Husk had voiced complain about cost of SMS rece tly when he cut it off for most of the world (which was pitched as 2FA outage when nobody could login) and had to backtrack very quickly.
- Jean-Francois Mezeijfmezei@mstdn.caFeb 18, 2023, 6:50 PM
@taylorlorenz Example of costs for one gateway provider: https://www.truedialog.com/pricing/api/ (you may have to disable styles to bypass their registration).
Timothy Wolodzkotymwol@bayes.clubFeb 18, 2023, 6:50 PM@taylorlorenz Next step: to write or read alt text under images, you need to pay $8.
marca56marca56@mastodon.sdf.orgFeb 18, 2023, 7:23 PM@taylorlorenz 2FA using SMS is not really secure. There are much better ways like authenticator apps, Passkey or hardware keys, all of which are free, and supported by Twitter
Opioid Policy Instituteopioidpolicy@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 7:30 PM@taylorlorenz many companies treat privacy and security like adspeak and/or push the need to subscribe to a higher tier for protection. shameful
Mason Jonesmasonoise@hachyderm.ioFeb 18, 2023, 7:35 PM@taylorlorenz We already knew that he doesn’t actually care about the users except insofar as they soothe his ego.
- Mason Jonesmasonoise@hachyderm.ioFeb 18, 2023, 7:37 PM
@taylorlorenz And to the people who say this will “force” people to use better MFA: no, 99.9% of those affected will simply not use any MFA. Everything other than SMS is too complicated for average users to deal with, unfortunately.
- Vomkinelvomkinel@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 7:46 PM
@taylorlorenz he doesn’t care…..
Feb 18, 2023, 8:24 PM@taylorlorenz it’s not often that security takes such a clear leap BACKWARDS
Tipiak75 :kirby:🍜tipiak75@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 8:37 PM@taylorlorenz Doing so definitely pushes users away from twitter to mastodon. At the very least it had that effect on me !
Feb 18, 2023, 8:46 PM@taylorlorenz I'm convinced it's more about the size of the Twillio invoice.
- taketwotaketwo@social.tchncs.deFeb 18, 2023, 9:13 PM
@taylorlorenz
I wouldn't use SMS as second factor. Totp as an app seems to be more secure and less stone agy 
Feb 18, 2023, 10:01 PM@taylorlorenz @steveumstead to be honest many SaaS providers have this attitude. You want 2FA for your accounting system in the cloud. $2,000 please. Amazing how basic security is treated as a luxury option.
The Tech OwlTheTechOwl@mastodon.socialFeb 18, 2023, 11:32 PM@taylorlorenz LOL. At the very least he's putting the pay wall for the weakest 2FA option. Otherwise, #twitter users would have left that platform faster xd.
standevstandev@mastodon.onlineFeb 19, 2023, 12:24 AM@taylorlorenz that sounds like responsible behavior and we should definitely trust him to manage companies that make cars and rockets
Nateinnonate@mastodon.socialFeb 19, 2023, 2:59 AM@taylorlorenz feels like there could be a much simpler explanation: SMS is ungodly expensive, and he’s economically fucked, needing to cut big costs any knuckle-headed way he can imagine.
Doug 🌈🇨🇦 :verified:Oldfartrant@mstdn.caFeb 19, 2023, 3:39 AM@taylorlorenz more like a hostage situation.
Nicolas Taffinpolylogue@framapiaf.orgFeb 19, 2023, 8:01 AM@taylorlorenz and makes cars 😱
Danny Goossendgoo2308@social.linux.pizzaFeb 19, 2023, 8:03 AM@taylorlorenz he just wants your credit card information….
Maggiemaggiewashburne@mastodon.socialFeb 19, 2023, 8:08 PM@taylorlorenz This can create entry sites for anyone who wants hack those accounts and take over the system.
Very soon after he invited his world back to Twitter, I found it a very dangerous place. Leave Twitter to the DEA agents, FBI, and police. No reason to be vulnerable in a bad neighborhood.
Mikhail YasnevMikhailYasnev@mastodon.worldFeb 19, 2023, 8:44 PM@taylorlorenz@mastodon.socia
are you sure that it is not connected with SMS transer cost from mobile operators?
I have read somewhere that 2fa auth will be free
I have just read your investigation about Twitter math for visits. That is interesting, will read your next stories. Wish you success
- SheahanSheahan@mastodon.worldFeb 26, 2023, 12:14 PM
What did you do with the real @elonmusk @twitter?
Is Elon #homeless now and #tortured?
@southafrica please do not kidnap and torture wealthy landowners #Chelsea
SameersaasboomiMar 7, 2023, 3:43 AM@taylorlorenz I think he's doing us all a favor. creators must move out of 'likes' and 'saves' mindset. Social engagement will always be human to human and without decentralizing the 'creation of content' - that's kinda difficult. That Ai is making it easier for hand-paintings to be in fashion soon. What do you think ?
- Surfsupwaveswhisperer@federated.pressMar 24, 2023, 12:30 PM
@taylorlorenz vote with your feet is what I tell folks. We are moving here. Those who don’t are chopped liver. Darwinian.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴HistoPol@mastodon.socialMar 25, 2023, 11:16 AMThis is only a secondary issue, IMO.
As ever, X.com, the #EverythingApp, is his final goal. Or, put differently, "it is all about payments".
For this, you need #2faAnd also: when selling (giving?) data to his investors (China, Saudi Arabia, Qatar).--Crackdowns in Saudi Arabia were already in the news.
https://fortune.com/crypto/2022/10/31/the-real-reason-elon-musk-bought-twitter/
Fernando FaraldoFernandoFaraldo@federated.pressMar 30, 2023, 2:46 AM@taylorlorenz so much for you making this shitty site your primary social media after your meltdown on Elon. Yet you’re still on Twitter 🤣.