@ireneista huh, seems like we might've underestimated how big a role "sketchy gray market products" (modchips, "backup" game cartridge devices, etc.) and the demand for them affect things

@ireneista we *have* been noticing that things such as OS API implementation details used to be somewhat infamously "not documented but everyone publicly reverse-engineered them"

hardware copy protection type schemes ranged from "didn't slow down anyone with a PAL/EPROM programmer" all the way to "wasn't publicly reverse-engineered until the past decade"

camera lenses are *still* kinda a fuck

what's the difference?

@ireneista so, uh, why were things like "electronic lens control protocols" always *so* closed-off, and why did we decide that *everything* should become that way?

@ireneista ah yeah, this is indeed the type of openness about otherwise proprietary technology that _used to be_ a lot more common

We’ve been talking about this for years.

None of these far-right movements are organic.

@ireneista was this ever true in the digital era?

afaik the digital era was always full of weirdness, including completely undocumented SoCs, ADCs, lens control DRM, etc etc etc

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@jonty possibly a set of 4 mini recipe books compiled by a "priscilla pease"

(i have no idea how rare this actually is, but i got it in a charity shop for cheap and am curious what era it's actually from)

@rpgwaiter yeah this is a thing i've also noticed

art, being created "from nothing/imagination", requires the artist to make a choice (conscious or not) in how much to emphasize these features, and it also has a larger range of what's possible

@ShadSterling @dtluna @stux @lanodan i'm extremely skeptical of giving schools more money, since from everything i've seen they'll just give it to a Vendor™️ instead (and giving funding to a Vendor™️ was a pretty big part of the failed implementation of curriculum reforms)

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@twipped okay, since someone has boosted the original post onto my timeline a second time, i figured i'd provide some additional context, in case any details here aren't something you already know

"chinese" is a very cursed term where government policy and linguists very much don't agree with each other. "chinese" is a much closer to a language family rather than a single "language", and different varieties of chinese are *not* mutually intelligible with each other when spoken. linguists have divided it into a number of major branches, which are *at least* as different as spanish vs italian vs french. even *within* these major branches, there can *still* be mutual un-intelligibility (just as italy and france are known to have many regional languages)

in the past, the need for interoperability was handled using classical chinese, similar to europe using latin. this is not very relevant today for what you're doing

in the absolute mess that was the 20th century (there were wars and stuff), a modernized standard (vernacular) chinese was developed, mostly from Mandarin (one of the several branches of chinese languages)

nowadays mainland china and taiwan both teach "standard" chinese (based on mandarin), but different word usage is preferred in each region (similar to american vs british english). in spoken form, these are mutually intelligible. however, mainland china teaches simplified characters for their written form while taiwan teaches traditional characters

语/語 typically refers to a spoken language (you can also see the simplified/traditional difference in the characters there), while 文 typically refers to a written language

because chinese is relatively new to this whole "standardization" thing, you'll still hear a lot of regional accents, slang, etc even *within* a dialect group. so there can be a pretty big difference between the register of the language you'd find in e.g. a book or a broadcast vs e.g. between peers. (english has had a lot more time to, ah, ignore and not deal with these issues. see e.g. AAVE)

non-mandarin varieties are even more of a mess. the written forms of these are not nearly as standardized or in common use (they all use chinese characters in written form, but there exist characters for many but not all of the words in these varieties)

cantonese is one of the major branches of chinese other than mandarin and is spoken in hong kong, macau, older immigrant communities in north america, etc. ime the typical convention for e.g. a news broadcast is that the anchor will use a very formal register of the language (highly influenced by the mandarin-like standard chinese) that i struggle to understand, while "some guy they're interviewing" will use the normal conversational register of the language. all of this will be subtitled in written standard chinese (which in the case of the "some guy" is effectively a translation). since i speak cantonese as a *heritage* first language, i'm particularly attuned to this whole thing

so yeah, tl;dr languages and translations and localization are a very political project, and it probably helps to be consciously aware of what you're attempting to target

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