@glyph Eh, the exec wages are tiny compared to what shareholders get. Thats the real problem: Institutional money at the stock market. But I wouldnt know where they should put it either. Whole systems fucked man
@shellsort disproportionate return to capital is indeed a big problem that needs addressing throughout the market. this is mostly in the context of saying that AI is an unjustified externality and e.g. "clothes" and "phones" aren't; there is actually a huge moral difference between these markets, since it's _possible_ to have a viable non-murder-based mineral supply chain and clothes can be made by workers who are not slaves, but you can't really fix AI's inherent structure, for example.
@shellsort "there is a difference" != "everything's great with these existing broken systems"
@glyph What do you mean by unjustified externality? 🤔
@shellsort do you know what an "externality" is?
@glyph Now I do.
Nov 9, 2026, 8:28 PM@glyph Why do you say that you can't really fix AI's inherent structure?
(Which is different from saying that there's not really a chance it will be fixed in this economic system, etc.)
@Bubu Doom loops. The inherent untraceability of the provenance of input data and its connection to the output.
Nov 9, 2026, 11:35 PM@glyph Do you have an entry point to the doom loop topic? This is the first time I've heard about this, I think, at least under this name and searching for "AI doom loops" just returns articles talking about (from what I can quickly see) wildly differering things?
About the provenance: I am not actually sure I care about that? Should I?