@glyph When I started webdev 10ish years ago, the setup process was the biggest barrier for me. I am mostly in PHP (I know), so not fully analogous, but I have to assume some of the steps are similar when starting from scratch. I never really got too hung up on PHP's principles, but the fact I had to set up XAMPP and learn how to make it work with whatever was the right version of the language, and do a bunch of server management that I could not find explanations for which worked for me... -c