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  • Apr 23, 2026, 12:43 AM
    When actually studying the history of the Britain, it is easy to cast all blame on the Anglo-Saxons as the singular villains.

    But is that actually fair? The truth is… it’s complicated.

    At times, the Anglo-Saxons were undoubtedly the aggressors and did all the bad things that befits their reputation. Other times, they were the victims of other groups.

    And because Anglo-Saxons were never one singular people, but instead a collection of Germanic tribes—one which only had political unity for 139 years—they often brutalized each other.

    What I find interesting is that, for nearly 1,000 years, the English monarchy hasn’t actually been Anglo-Saxon. The last true Anglo-Saxon king was Harold Godwinson.

    Afterwards, English monarchs were a whole lot of other people: Normans, Angevins, Welsh, Scots, Dutch, Germans. Never Anglo-Saxons.
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  • Apr 23, 2026, 12:51 AM

    @atomicpoet I mostly know the history of Britain through the history of the English language, but in a sense, while it's usually considered to be earlier (sometimes for non-historical reasons) I consider the true birth of England being 1066. The Anlo-Saxon (and Frisians, why are the Frisians always left behind?) period is some sort of proto-England, but not really England in my opinion (but I'm not a historian).

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  • Apr 23, 2026, 1:06 AM
    @David You’re right, Anglo-Saxon culture and English culture are not one and the same.

    Current English nationalism paints over the reality. The 11th century conflict that essentially created modern English identity was between the Anglo-Saxons, the Danes, and the Normans. The Normans were Franco-Vikings.

    The 100 Years War was not a conflict between the French and English. It was mostly a French civil war between the Angevins and the Valois. The Angevins just happened to hold the English crown too.

    When the Angevins lost the civil war, they rebranded themselves as English.

    Interestingly, the Channel Islands are a remnant of past Angevin holdings—they’re not actually part of the United Kingdom.
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