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  • Dec 20, 2025, 10:53 AM

    @burgervege
    Mutually Assured Destruction is a thing.

    I still think it'd be more realistic to organize a "no Firefox day" where people coordinate to not use any Gecko-based browser for a day, to signal to Mozilla than we can harm them even if we harm ourselves as well

    Than it would be to convince governments to fund a web browser.
    @Doomed_Daniel

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  • Dec 20, 2025, 11:08 AM

    @burgervege
    But also, let's say we do want to go the lobbying path.

    Where do we start?

    Make a poll on fedi to judge how many people support the cause?

    Make a list of arguments how a govt would benefit from funding a browser / how Google is a threat?

    Make a 30min YouTube video about it?

    Tell people to call their MEPs?

    Raise money to hire a lobbyist?

    File an European Citizens' Initiative?

    @Doomed_Daniel

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  • Dec 20, 2025, 3:39 PM

    @wolf480pl @Doomed_Daniel We might do all of the above actually. But lobbying 101 is picturing what we want (e.g a sustainably funded Firefox that hupolds its values), then figuring how to make this happen.

    Some people expect way to much from Firefox, without acknowledging what would need to change in *their* behaviour for their perfect-Firefox to happen.

    This has been said before : FF users rant, but none of them want to pay actual money so FF is sustainably funded.

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  • Dec 20, 2025, 3:45 PM

    @wolf480pl @Doomed_Daniel And yes, it feels like catch 22. We don't want to pay Mozilla cause they're constantly doing shit. But they often do shit because nobody's paying.

    The AI stuff is Mozilla making deals so AI could be integrated to FF *for fucking money*. It's a response to users not being OK with paying.

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