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  • Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafe
    Sep 27, 2026, 8:11 AM

    I like Mastodon, I really do. But it has so, so many dependencies, and updating it on illumos or OpenBSD is getting really difficult, release after release.

    Some dependencies are primarily distributed as binaries, or only build on Linux and macOS. It's not Mastodon's fault, but it depends on them.

    That’s why, in my opinion, solutions like snac, GoToSocial, or littleFedi have a reason to exist: all of this is much, much easier...

    #Fediverse #snac #GoToSocial #littleFedi #OwnYourData #Mastodon

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  • Kevinkevin@fedi.kevinisageek.org
    Sep 27, 2026, 8:28 AM

    @stefano I regret basing my instance on Mastodon, simply too big for a single user. If there was a decent way to switch software, I would strongly consider it.

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  • Luca Sironiluca@sironi.xyz
    Sep 27, 2026, 8:41 AM

    @stefano

    I started with pleroma and didn't like the way the project was poorly managed.
    Bugs that lasted years considered less important than stupid new features.

    Mastodon on a proxmox debian vm is lighter than I expected.

    The biggest point anyway , is the trust on the development team.

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  • Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafe
    Sep 27, 2026, 8:54 AM

    @luca if the load is low, it's not that heavy. I have (had), a single user instance for some time, and it wasn't that loaded. And for large(r) communities, it's quite good, well structured and scalable.

    I like it, really. And it's not a Mastodon problem, but a similar problem exists for all the modern stacks that depend on a lot of external dependencies.

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  • Luca Sironiluca@sironi.xyz
    Sep 27, 2026, 10:24 AM

    @u0421793 @stefano

    For myself I'm fine with mastodon, though the stack is complex also on Linux 😀.

    I do have a quarter of an idea of trying to selfhost a #holossocial relay server, because I love the idea of letting the users smartphone be the servers, as much as they can

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  • Phil Dennis-Jordanpmdj@mstdn.social
    Sep 27, 2026, 10:37 AM

    @stefano I don't run my own Mastodon instance, but I've ended up regretting deploying pretty much every application that had a sprawling network of dependencies. Even if you stay on the supported path - Linux, supported distro, etc. - it becomes a major pain to diagnose and fix problems, apply upgrades, etc. when there are so many moving parts.
    It's a difficult choice as a developer, but IMO the "monolithic architectures are bad" advice going around ~10 years ago has caused a lot of problems.

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  • ploumploum@mamot.fr
    Sep 27, 2026, 11:13 AM

    @stefano : #snac is really fascinating.

    I wonder if minimalist people could use it to completely replace their Mastodon use, in the long term too (maintainance, keeping up with changes in API, etc)

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  • Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafe
    Sep 27, 2026, 11:38 AM

    @ploum many people I know do, and I’m using it for a lot of projects. Since 2023, when I started to use it, all I had to do was compile and run. Minimalist portable C, at its best

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  • pp@hj.9fs.net
    Sep 27, 2026, 2:40 PM
    no, it's not possible
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  • ManMachinemax@manmachine.me
    Sep 27, 2026, 3:05 PM
    Snac is my main, so far hadn’t had much need to use full fat mastodons
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