@zzt So much this. How much should I get back for serving as vice-chair for the area Linux users' group? For those weekends spent preparing for and conducting installfests open to the public? Administering the infrastructure for free services we provided to our members?

You know he doesn't care anymore now that he's got all that sweet sweet corpo money. The little people don't matter to him. He tolerated us when it was convenient but now we've been replaced.

@zzt Copyright means it doesn't have to be reasonable invoices for labor.

All of us with code in the kernel should be slapping them with infringement suits for their violating the terms of the GPL under which they're using our code.

@davidgerard
You're right, that's why I mentioned "the movement". We need collective strategies for sure.

As someone who is gradually migrating towards open horizons, it's difficult to put into words how demoralizing it is to see "the old pros" decamping for BSD. The applications I need Linux for have taken decades to mature on the platform, and won't be serviced by BSD anytime soon.

Yes, people individually need things that work for them now. But BSD won't be a refuge for many, or for long; and suggestion here that this points to the suspicion that FOSS is a movement of selfish engineering that tells itself it's egalitarian.

Those with the privilege of technical aptitude can jump to an even more esoteric and obtuse alternative. But if we really think that Linux/FOSS is an escape hatch from big tech for everyone, there's a question of responsibility here.

You asked for specifics, I don't necessarily have any. It needs to be a collective effort. Blowing the horn like you guys are doing is an important start

@dnkboston @zzt

@zzt Thank you! I'm not going to rush to do this, but I'll start researching for next year.

And also WTF? I was not and am not a gamer, but I got the vibe of the time, so eww.

We are way past enshittification.

@zzt this right here is the problem with specific use cases, they often won’t necessarily be useful to the majority of the population, but because someone had a very specific goal in mind, well you need to support this genius even though they’re not making something you as just a regular meat bag can use

So, do people an old-school Atari computer would work for things like word processing and maybe email? Because it looks like that OS is so old, an LLM wouldn't know what to do with it, and so uncool, a fascist wouldn't suck it into nostalgia.

Asking for a friend.

@jackielovescompchem32 @zzt you mean, slightly above zero as opposed to driving into the negatives

@dnkboston @davidgerard @zzt
Yes, this is inevitable, because slop is an aspect of fascism, and fascism is totalitarian. They will absolutely come for BSD. From the perspective of "the movement", running away from Linux is bad antifascism. Don't run, turn around and fight

and again if you need stability and netbsd is thiiis close to being perfect on your hardware, please don’t let me stop you from tinkering with it and contributing and making it work

do let me stop you from pretending it’s a solution to anything but your problems on your hardware, though

you think I’m a psyop? I fucking love BSD and I’d love to close my eyes and go back to tinkering with my system, on old hardware I purchased specifically to work with a specific kernel, doing nothing of value for anyone but myself

but doing that wouldn’t fix anything, would it?

the big men of FOSS told you that you were no good at organizing, at the messy legal bits, at licensing, at the social bits. they demanded fealty and money because they were the organizers. how could you hope to come up with a (laughably weak) document like the GPL? with 1000 variants of the BSD license? how could you get money and housing for giving (frankly universally terrible) talks for your knowledge? you were told that the only thing you were good for was your technical skill, and someone else would worry about the rest.

none of those big men are special. all of us are organizers. all of us can do what we will with our labor. all of us have proven to be better at both organizing and technical labor than any of the big men. they keep proving it every day.

why do we have to follow their marching orders? why do we have to act like switching operating systems is resistance?

be impolite. be a fucking nightmare. they owe us for everything they are now.

you know, I was hoping I already made this clear

netbsd taking money from a relatively unknown fascist group doesn’t damn them. they likely didn’t know who FUTO was. most people don’t.

if it runs ok on your hardware (and that’s a big “if”), netbsd is likely a more stable choice than any Linux 7.x+ kernel will ever be, and you should switch over if you can.

switching to netbsd isn’t resistance. please be real.

you already crawled up onto your cross and nailed your hands to an OS that was 10-20 years behind the curve on hardware back when you were the only linux user you knew, remember? muddling through broken shit is the easy way out, you’ve done it before. how did it end? a bunch of assholes took over. why would it end any different this time?

resistance isn’t politely choosing another OS. resistance isn’t a technical solution to a social problem.

the netbsd team aren’t your friends. there’s perhaps a future where they could be, but right now the ending will be no different.

@davidgerard @zzt Because when has a combination of tech, fascism, and colonialism ever gone wrong?

@cstross “I Successfully Overthrew The Demon Lord And Instituted Demon Democracy But They Voted For A Commie So The CIA Not Some Fantasy Equivalent The Actual CIA Who Have Known About Magic And Alternate Realms The Whole Damn Time But Won't Just Unisekai Me Launched A Counter Coup And That's When Things Really Went To Shit” https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/49304936 #lightnovels

It's kind of bullshit that Gatorade doesn't even contain any gators.

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I quite LITERALLY don't care what anyone is doing or thinks on twitter. There is nothing I need to know from any person who chooses to engage with that site. They have zero value to me. I do not respect them. There are no exceptions. If you think of someone that might be, you are wrong. You cannot justify feeding a vehicle that causes catastrophic harm and pain.

@zzt The very things I warned about 25 years ago, that buddying up to corporate interests for accessibility would recreate the very monster we were running away from, have come to pass.

@axel The reason they don't care about slopware is because they were tricked into thinking code isn't art. @zzt