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  • Sep 22, 2026, 10:07 PM

    @sandorspruit @samth
    Think about steam engines.

    People like Newcomen and Watt performed observations, had intuitions, and did experiments, and make significant progress. They made tremendously useful engines, even if the science was poor and the engines well short of optimal.

    It took ~50 years before before Carnot explained the idealized thermodynamic model, and people could improve the engines from first principles.

    We can think of current GenAI systems as being Watt engines.

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  • Sep 22, 2026, 10:09 PM

    @sandorspruit @samth
    The steam engines created an entire industrial revolution even before the science was established.

    A tremendous amount of useful and effective math was done long before we understood the foundations and limits (with new insights every century: epsilon-delta, Galois theory, Gödel, etc.).

    This seems to be the nature of things? When the tool become useful enough, theoreticians rush in to finally bring order.

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