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michielmichiel@social.tchncs.de
Oct 8, 2026, 7:06 PM
@mcc @mhoye That's why most original proponents of UBI - from Thomas Spence to Henry George - linked it to a Land Value Tax that captures that value from landlords again. That system wasn't entirely braindead.
I agree that a UBI by itself would just go towards rent seekers.
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 8, 2026, 7:09 PM
@michiel @mhoye georgism is definitely interesting to me, but this possibly just moves the "person who realizes they can charge $500/mo" from being the landlord to the cartel that provides food, gas, or medical care. now maybe you can break food and gas cartels and introduce single-payer medical care. But at some point you've built so much of socialism UBI starts to seem like not just the easy part but a trivial part, compared to building socialism…
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michielmichiel@social.tchncs.de
Oct 8, 2026, 7:12 PM
@mcc @mhoye I respect any kind of socialism that at least engages with economic theory. Some socialism does, but I have to admit that many varieties look like cybernetic fantasies to me. To each their own.
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