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  • Oct 31, 2026, 1:49 PM

    @Tamtam @pathfinder @autistics For this neurodivergent who thrived anyway meaningful way through history, I can only see two primary avenues to that thriving: either they found a way to dominate or they found a peculiar niche operating in a role seen as a medium to the superstitious.

    We tend to appear uncanny to NTs. For those of us who are "Level 1"-ish, our abilities and limitations, who were seen as somehow capable, I suspect we were head with a form of reverence coupled with degrees of fear. When I say this, (and this always offend someone because they hear it in the contemporary context rather than historical), I mean that those of us in that category were seen as "wise ones", "shamans", "sorcerers", "the gifted touched", and "oracles": people to be feared but also sought out for aid. Those same people lived on the edges of cultures, unable and unwilling to be a part of the day to day but existing in a form of symbiosis.

    We still have these people. They're the iconoclastic experts, appreciated by some for their craft and despised by others for their countercultural lifestyles and promulgation of same. For example, some are open source software maintainers of projects used by many.

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  • Oct 31, 2026, 4:44 PM

    @elight @Tamtam @autistics
    I believe that in earlier, smaller societies there was always an advantage to being neurodivergent that could be recognised, irrespective of how it presented. There was always a role for those who didn't need supervision or who were hyper-vigilant, pattern seeking, or basically nocturnal.
    From night guards, trackers, scouts, hunters, safeguarding lifestock, making sure fires didn't go out 24/7 and so on.
    It was when humans began to settle into an agrian fixed existence that society became more and more hierarchical and patriarchal.
    Brought on by the need to defend fixed assets that couldn't any longer be just picked up and moved and increased competition for the limited resources needed to be able to exist this way. And the stricter requirements for discipline and cooperation it requires, where differences became seen more as a threat to this, than a value to be cherished.

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  • Oct 31, 2026, 5:34 PM

    @pathfinder @Tamtam @autistics I was about to say: the moment we began to commoditize human behavior, we became problematic for society. We are far less interchangeable. In most cultures, that is undesirable or worse.

    Interesting and seemingly indisputable point you made. I'll elaborate: the human move the agriculture was a first "industrial revolution". Humans became the first interchangeable parts.

    Eli Whitney and his cotton gin began the second one.

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