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  • NatalyaDNatalyaD@disabled.social
    Mar 30, 2026, 6:25 PM

    RE: social.v.st/@quixoticgeek/1163

    Thread discussing how benches are essential inclusive architecture. Many people can drive, cycle or walk but can't stand for longer periods.

    It takes a lot more leg strength and complex muscle working arrangements to stand than to walk.

    I have limited walking AND standing stamina. My nearest shops are in my max good-day walking distance but no benches mean I can't rest part or half way so it's a painful trip when it needn't be.

    Stations never have enough seating and it's often hostile.

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  • NatalyaDNatalyaD@disabled.social
    Mar 30, 2026, 6:26 PM

    Hostile seating is often not accessible.

    A seat that requires me to bear weight through my legs isn't a good seat for me. I'm trying to take weight OFF my legs. Something that requires balancing isn't good as my balance is poor.

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  • StabbiStabbi@disabled.social
    Mar 30, 2026, 8:30 PM

    @NatalyaD There's a concept in civil engineering history known as the "urinary leash". Essentially, if you can prevent people from peeing then they will self segregate. This isn't some obscure detail, this is first year landscape architecture.
    In the US this has been used as far back as Jim Crowe. Today we see this in paid urinals, trans bathroom bills, and hostile design against the unhoused or inebriated.

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  • NatalyaDNatalyaD@disabled.social
    Mar 30, 2026, 9:36 PM

    @Stabbi I have heard of the term and yes it's very appropriate. Victorian women were tied to home or similar because there weren't public toilets or it wasn't socially acceptable for them to use them.

    I am sure we could find evidence of this for any made-marginalised group, women, Black people, disabled people, trans/queer folk and so on.

    We must resist it. Or have a mass piss in!

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  • John :hacker_b:jboy@post.lurk.org
    Apr 1, 2026, 8:27 AM

    @NatalyaD this is one of the reasons my mother, who has post-polio syndrome, hardly dares to go anywhere unless she knows she can park close by.

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  • NatalyaDNatalyaD@disabled.social
    Apr 1, 2026, 2:48 PM

    @jboy A lot of it about. I have more capacity than I've had, but I have to be careful and if I blow my overall walking level in a day/few-days I suffer for it. People who walk typically just don't understand how restrictive it can be. Even at levels above where you can access official disability supports like disability parking permits etc.

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