Aug 19, 2024, 5:23 AMThe W3C's recently published Privacy Principles note has a section on "privacy labor"
This is a very interesting framing of the issue of tech companies putting too much of the burden of protecting privacy on the person using the service
Aug 19, 2024, 10:02 AM@eob 💯
@robin excellent document. Though, looking at the references I was surprised not to find “Privacy First: A Better Way to Address Online Harms” by @eff among them.
https://www.eff.org/am/wp/privacy-first-better-way-address-online-harms
Aug 19, 2024, 1:16 PM@erlend @eob @eff Yes, that one could be in there! Frankly, the problem we faced has been more there being too much to say, reference, and explain than not enough. There's a *lot* of excellent content out there and the primary problem is more that web people have been ignoring it forever. The most frequent complaint about the document is that it's too long.
IMHO the best way to get a realistic sense of #privacyLabour is to play a couple games of "Realistic Facebook Privacy Simulator." People don't have time to look up every possible setting, so developers have the responsibility to design based on widely held privacy norms first
https://www.tomscott.com/usvsth3m/realistic-facebook-privacy-simulator/
@eob @ariezra has also written a great book "industry unbound" on how corps architect privacy compliance regimes to stymie the efforts of privacy professionals to actually achieve privacy for users and generally steer them into box-checking despite the best good-faith efforts of people employed under the banner of privacy protection. another definition of privacy labour
Aug 20, 2024, 7:10 PM@eob well, yeah, we should bill the GAFAM for wasting our time.
@eob I'm not 100% sure about that wording though, it looks like they're saying you shouldn't ask consent and process anyway 🤔
@eob Why is this coming from the W3C? Aren't they a consortium of organisations making money from data that they collect on us?
Aug 22, 2024, 2:44 PM@reinierl The W3C is a standards body for Web and Web-related technologies
And although many of its members are tech companies, its membership also included non-profits, universities, and government organizations
And many of its standards are not particularly profit driven
For example, the ActivityPub protocol that this conversation is happening over is a W3C standard, and it's pretty subversive in its effects on the business models of the Internet